July 16, 2020

Episode 27 True Crime: The Murder of Abby Vandiver and the 2014 Isla Vista Killings

This week there was not a Bachelor GOAT episode but we still have a true crime Bachelor related episode for you!

Danielle talks about the continued trauma that LaNease Adams and other Bachelor POC contestants have faced after being on the show. She connects her story with the constant victimization the loved ones of Abby Vandiver’s family suffered, when her young life was tragically and viciously taken too soon in Dunwoody, Georgia.

Megan talks about a super difficult case, the 2014 Isla Vista shootings, committed by Elliott Rodger, a self-identified Incel. This creep killed 6 people, and injured another 14. Megan walks through what “Incel” means, and talks about some related Incel incidents of violence and how it’s related to some of the toxic masculinity we see on the Bachelor franchise *cough* Chad Johnson *cough*. (Content Warnings on this one: severe violence against women, mass shooting, and toxic masculinity.)

Megan also covers some true crime news: the disappearance of Naya Rivera, the execution of a Texas inmate, arrests made in the death of rapper Pop Smoke, and Donald Trump commuting the sentence of his long time friend and political adviser, Roger Stone.

First story starts at 14:10. Second story starts at 54:11.

Links mentioned in the episode:

“The Rage of Incels” by Jia Tolentino (New Yorker)

Southern Poverty Law Center

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